Notes about the nsm's planned april 18, 2015 toledo visit

http://toledotalk.com/cgi-bin/tt.pl/article/69440/Five-year_Anniversary_of_North_Toledo_Riot

About the April 18, 2015 NSM event:

Next month’s rally is planned for 3:30 p.m. outside One Government Center ...

The NSM visited Toledo twice in 2005.

Their first rally occurred in October 2005, and it was held in North Toledo where rioting occurred.

Their second visit occurred on December 10, 2005, and that rally was held outside One Government Center. Some arrests did occur, but no violence was reported. A temporary restraining order restricted the NSM to a specific location. The distance between the NSM and the protesters was so great that both sides could barely hear each other. The number of media people attending nearly equaled the number of protesters. The planning by the police neutralized the event.

Obviously, it's more dramatic to mention the NSM's October 2005 visit, but it's likely that their April 2015 rally will be more like their December 2005 visit.

TT threads prior to the Dec 2005 rally with most of the information provided by historymike:

• November 30, 2005 - It's Official: NSM Is Coming Back
• December 1, 2005 - Downtown Library Branch To Close For Nazis
• December 2, 2005 - Text Of Letter From An Anti-Nazi Group To Mayor Ford
• December 6, 2005 - Local Coalition Calls For Friday Prayer Vigil
• December 7, 2005 - Alternative Event To The Nazi Rally
• December 7, 2005 - Potential Source of Trouble at Nazi Rally
• December 8, 2005 - Editorial On Media And The Nazi Rally
• December 9, 2005 - City asks judge to limit site for rally
• December 9, 2005 - Court Grants City Temporary Restraining Order
• December 10, 2005 - On The Ground Coverage Of Today's Nazi-Related Events

historymike's Dec 10, 2005 blog posts

• Waiting To See What Happens
• Scooping Up The Antifa
• Turnout: 35-40 Nazis, 80-90 Antis
• Police Arrest Two Photographers

From historymike's blog posting:

NSM was late arriving for their rally. The sound quality was terrible.

There are perhaps 40 people up in the Nazi area, which is about 100 yards from the protesters.

There are a little less than 100 protesters; I am taking out of the equation the undercover police and media who are making the antifa look larger.

First place in turnout goes to the police; there must be between 300 and 400 from what I have seen. Second place goes to the media, as I estimate at least 100 members of the press here.

Police are not hesitating to make arrests, both in the crowd and outside the parade area. I just received a call from some protesters who were arrested outside the main branch of the public library; they were making a cell phone call when police came up to them and detained them for violating the temporary restraining order.

Dec 10, 2005 - Toledo Blade - Nazi rally ends with no major violence

From the Blade story:

A neo-Nazi rally staged today in downtown Toledo ended about 3:50 p.m. with about 20 arrests, but no significant violence.

About 50 members of the National Socialist Movement were part of a rally that started about 2:45 p.m. in front of Government Center.

The neo-Nazis were vastly outnumbered by police, protesters, and a crowd estimated at about 150. About 700 police officers were on hand to control the crowd.

Police clad in riot gear and holding shields lined Jackson Street in front of the government building, which houses city, county, and state offices. Mounted officers moved through the crowd.

About the temporary restraining order that was issued on Dec 9, 2005:

Lucas County Common Pleas Court Judge Thomas Osowik, citing a “compelling government interest for maintaining peace in the neighborhoods,” granted the city of Toledo a temporary restraining order and injunction against members of the National Socialist Movement (NSM) and counter-protest groups.

The action will limit demonstrations to the area near One Government Center.

Police will now be able to arrest groups who demonstrate outside the official rally areas.

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Friday, a Lucas County Common Pleas Court judge granted city officials an injunction barring assembly by the neo-Nazis anywhere other than the designated protest area.

The NSM were extremely restricted in their movements, which resulted in a lack of movement.

Excerpts from my Dec 10, 2005 comment

Driving back Saturday afternoon from a swimming invitational in Napoleon, I heard the first update at 3:00 p.m. on WSPD. It sounded like the rally got started later than the scheduled 2:00. WSPD had at least five people covering the event. They reported about 50 NSM, 100-150 protesters, and possibly more media than the protesters, and of course hundreds of police. Similar things being said on historymike's blog.

WSPD also said the NSM's sound system sucked because they couldn't hear the NSM. The distance from the NSM and probably the wind were also factors. A WSPD reporter said the protesters actually quieted down so that the protesters could hear what the NSM were saying.

Sounds to me like the police did an awesome job. The pre-planning and intelligence gathering were spectacular. It doesn't appear anyone's free speech rights were violated, right? It seems everyone got a chance to yell their views. Just because the two sides couldn't do it face-to-face, and they couldn't hear each other is irrelevant.

I say, excellent job by the police. Keeping the NSM and everyone else far apart was a great idea. Good, valuable coverage, as usual, by historymike.

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